Stock Stroke and Stroker — 428 Pistons for Pontiac V8s
428 Pistons share a bore family with the 400 but not a stroke. The 428 came with a 4.000" stroke crank, so what is already a stroker piston in a 400 is the stock-stroke piston here. That changes the compression height, the rod length and which dish volume gets you to a pump gas compression ratio.
Butler stocks Keith Black hypereutectic flat tops, Icon forged dish sets cut for the 428 stroke, DSS 2618 forged pistons across 4.000" through 4.500" strokes, and Butler/Ross Quick Ship forged flat tops and CNC milled dish tops.
DSS 3-FX Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 455, 4.500" Str., 4.180" Bore, -24cc Dish Top, Set/8, DSS-K3-6157-4180CNew
DSS 3-FX Series Forged Pistons — Set of 8
-24cc Dish Top
4.180" Bore / 4.500" Stroke
1.16" Compression Height
0.99" Pins Included
1.2 / 1.2 / 3.0mm DSS Ring Set Included
2618 with Extr...
Description: DSS 3-FX Series Forged Pistons — Set of 8
-24cc Dish Top
4.180" Bore / 4.500" Stroke
1.16" Compression Height
0.99" Pins Included
1.2 / 1.2 / 3.0mm DSS Ring Set Included
2618 with...More Details »
Item #: DSS-K3-6157-4180C
Condition: New
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Price: $1,259.95
DSS 3-FX Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 455, 4.500" Str., 4.180" Bore, -7cc Flat Top, Set/8, DSS-K3-6150-4180CNew
DSS 3-FX Series Forged Pistons — Set of 8
-7cc Flat Top
4.180" Bore / 4.500" Stroke
1.16" Compression Height
0.99" Pins Included
1.2 / 1.2 / 3.0mm DSS Ring Set Included
2618 with Extre...
Description: DSS 3-FX Series Forged Pistons — Set of 8
-7cc Flat Top
4.180" Bore / 4.500" Stroke
1.16" Compression Height
0.99" Pins Included
1.2 / 1.2 / 3.0mm DSS Ring Set Included
2618 with...More Details »
Item #: DSS-K3-6150-4180C
Condition: New
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Price: $1,259.95
DSS Custom Piston Set, Up to 4.200 Bore, Any Stroke, Flat or Dish, SetNew
Fully Custom DSS Pistons
Made with 2618 - T6 forging
Choose Dish or Flat Top
Any Stroke and up to 4.200 Bore
Choose rings, pins, and more
Enter specs and details to help us customize it
Our experts...
Description: Fully Custom DSS Pistons
Made with 2618 - T6 forging
Choose Dish or Flat Top
Any Stroke and up to 4.200 Bore
Choose rings, pins, and more
Enter specs and details to help us customize it
Our experts...More Details »
-14cc Dish Top Pistons
4.150", 4.160", or 4.180 Bore
1.585 CH
.980" Pins Included
6.625" Rod Length
1.2 1.2 3.0mm Rings Required
Fits late model and Edelbrock Cylinder Heads
Description: -14cc Dish Top Pistons
4.150", 4.160", or 4.180 Bore
1.585 CH
.980" Pins Included
6.625" Rod Length
1.2 1.2 3.0mm Rings Required
Fits late model and Edelbrock Cylinder Heads
-18cc Dish Top Pistons
4.150", 4.160", or 4.180 Bore
1.480 CH
.980" Pins Included
6.625" Rod Length
1.2 1.2 3.0mm Rings Required
Fits late model and Edelbrock Cylinder Heads
Description: -18cc Dish Top Pistons
4.150", 4.160", or 4.180 Bore
1.480 CH
.980" Pins Included
6.625" Rod Length
1.2 1.2 3.0mm Rings Required
Fits late model and Edelbrock Cylinder Heads
-24cc Dish Top Pistons
4.150", 4.160", or 4.180 Bore
1.160 CH
.990" Pins Included
6.800" Rod Length
1.2 1.2 3.0mm Rings Required
Fits late model and Edelbrock Cylinder Heads
Description: -24cc Dish Top Pistons
4.150", 4.160", or 4.180 Bore
1.160 CH
.990" Pins Included
6.800" Rod Length
1.2 1.2 3.0mm Rings Required
Fits late model and Edelbrock Cylinder Heads
Item #: DSS-2-6153-400
Condition: New
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Price: $799.95
DSS Forged -7cc Flat Top Pistons, 400/428, 4.000" Str,New
Forged Flat Top Pistons
-7cc Valve Pocket
4.150", 4.160", or 4.180 Bore
1.585 CH
.980" Pins Included
6.625" Rod Length
1.2 1.2 3.0mm Rings Required
Fits late model and Edelbrock Cylinder Heads
Description: Forged Flat Top Pistons
-7cc Valve Pocket
4.150", 4.160", or 4.180 Bore
1.585 CH
.980" Pins Included
6.625" Rod Length
1.2 1.2 3.0mm Rings Required
Fits late model and Edelbrock Cylinder Heads
Item #: DSS-2-6112-428
Condition: New
Price: $799.95
DSS Forged -7cc Flat Top Pistons, 400/428, 4.500" Str,New
Forged Flat Top Pistons
-7cc Valve Pocket
4.150", 4.160", or 4.180 Bore
1.160 CH
.990" Pins Included
6.800" Rod Length
1.2 1.2 3.0mm Rings Required
Fits late model and Edelbrock Cylinder Heads
Description: Forged Flat Top Pistons
-7cc Valve Pocket
4.150", 4.160", or 4.180 Bore
1.160 CH
.990" Pins Included
6.800" Rod Length
1.2 1.2 3.0mm Rings Required
Fits late model and Edelbrock Cylinder Heads
Item #: DSS-2-6150-400
Condition: New
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Price: $799.95
Hypereutectic Cast -6cc Flat Top Pistons, 428, 4.000" Str,New
Flat Top -6cc
6.625" Rod Length
5/64", 5-64", 3/16" Ring Size
Press-fit or floating
.980 Pin
Set/8
Description: Flat Top -6cc
6.625" Rod Length
5/64", 5-64", 3/16" Ring Size
Press-fit or floating
.980 Pin
Set/8
Item #: UEM-KB304
Condition: New
Price: $481.67
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 428, 4.000" Str., 4.150" Bore (+.030"), -10cc Dish, Set/8, UEM-IC-892-KTD-030-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428
-10cc Dish
4.150" Bore (+.030")
4.000" Stroke
1.595" Compression Height
.980" Pins Included
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428
-10cc Dish
4.150" Bore (+.030")
4.000" Stroke
1.595" Compression Height
.980" Pins Included
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Item #: UEM-IC-892-KTD-030-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $920.53
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 428, 4.000" Str., 4.160" Bore (+.040"), -10cc Dish, Set/8, UEM-IC-892-KTD-040-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428
-10cc Dish
4.160" Bore (+.040")
4.000" Stroke
1.595" Compression Height
.980" Pins Included
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428
-10cc Dish
4.160" Bore (+.040")
4.000" Stroke
1.595" Compression Height
.980" Pins Included
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Item #: UEM-IC-892-KTD-040-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $920.53
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 428, 4.000" Str., 4.180" Bore (+.060"), -10cc Dish, Set/8, UEM-IC-892-KTD-060-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428
-10cc Dish
4.180" Bore (+.060")
4.000" Stroke
1.595" Compression Height
.980" Pins Included
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428
-10cc Dish
4.180" Bore (+.060")
4.000" Stroke
1.595" Compression Height
.980" Pins Included
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Item #: UEM-IC-892-KTD-060-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $920.53
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod), 4.000" Str., 4.155" Bore (+.030"), -4.5cc Flat Top, Set/8, UEM-IC-937-KTD-030-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod)
-4.5cc Flat Top
4.155" Bore (+.030")
4.000" Stroke
1.425" Compression Height
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod)
-4.5cc Flat Top
4.155" Bore (+.030")
4.000" Stroke
1.425" Compression Height
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Item #: UEM-IC-937-KTD-030-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $1,009.18
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod), 4.000" Str., 4.165" Bore (+.040"), -4.5cc Flat Top, Set/8, UEM-IC-937-KTD-040-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod)
-4.5cc Flat Top
4.165" Bore (+.040")
4.000" Stroke
1.425" Compression Height
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod)
-4.5cc Flat Top
4.165" Bore (+.040")
4.000" Stroke
1.425" Compression Height
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Item #: UEM-IC-937-KTD-040-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $1,009.18
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod), 4.000" Str., 4.185" Bore (+.060"), -4.5cc Flat Top, Set/8, UEM-IC-937-KTD-060-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod)
-4.5cc Flat Top
4.185" Bore (+.060")
4.000" Stroke
1.425" Compression Height
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod)
-4.5cc Flat Top
4.185" Bore (+.060")
4.000" Stroke
1.425" Compression Height
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Item #: UEM-IC-937-KTD-060-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $1,009.18
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod), 4.000" Str., 4.195" Bore (+.070"), -4.5cc Flat Top, Set/8, UEM-IC-937-KTD-070-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod)
-4.5cc Flat Top
4.195" Bore (+.070")
4.000" Stroke
1.425" Compression Height
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod)
-4.5cc Flat Top
4.195" Bore (+.070")
4.000" Stroke
1.425" Compression Height
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Item #: UEM-IC-937-KTD-070-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $1,009.18
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod), 4.000" Str., 4.200" Bore (+.075"), -4.5cc Flat Top, Set/8, UEM-IC-937-KTD-075-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod)
-4.5cc Flat Top
4.200" Bore (+.075")
4.000" Stroke
1.425" Compression Height
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod)
-4.5cc Flat Top
4.200" Bore (+.075")
4.000" Stroke
1.425" Compression Height
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Item #: UEM-IC-937-KTD-075-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $1,009.18
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod), 4.000" Str., 4.210" Bore (+.085"), -4.5cc Flat Top, Set/8, UEM-IC-937-KTD-085-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod)
-4.5cc Flat Top
4.210" Bore (+.085")
4.000" Stroke
1.425" Compression Height
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 428/433 (6.800" Rod)
-4.5cc Flat Top
4.210" Bore (+.085")
4.000" Stroke
1.425" Compression Height
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Item #: UEM-IC-937-KTD-085-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $1,009.18
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 455, 4.210" Str., 4.150" Bore (Std), -15cc Dish, Set/8, UEM-IC-889-KTD-STD-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 455
-15cc Dish
4.150" Bore (Standard)
4.210" Stroke
1.490" Compression Height
.980" Pins Included
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 455
-15cc Dish
4.150" Bore (Standard)
4.210" Stroke
1.490" Compression Height
.980" Pins Included
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included More Details »
Item #: UEM-IC-889-KTD-STD-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $920.53
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 455, 4.210" Str., 4.150" Bore (Std), -5.5cc Flat Top, Set/8, UEM-IC-888-KTD-STD-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 455
-5.5cc Flat Top
4.150" Bore (Standard)
4.210" Stroke
1.490" Compression Height
.980" Pins Included
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Incl...
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 455
-5.5cc Flat Top
4.150" Bore (Standard)
4.210" Stroke
1.490" Compression Height
.980" Pins Included
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set...More Details »
Item #: UEM-IC-888-KTD-STD-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $802.38
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 455, 4.210" Str., 4.151" Bore (Std), -10.8cc Flat Top, Set/8, UEM-IC-9960-KTD-STD-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 455
-10.8cc Flat Top
4.151" Bore (Standard)
4.210" Stroke
1.490" Compression Height
Matched Ring Set Included
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 455
-10.8cc Flat Top
4.151" Bore (Standard)
4.210" Stroke
1.490" Compression Height
Matched Ring Set Included
Item #: UEM-IC-9960-KTD-STD-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $815.01
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 455, 4.210" Str., 4.180" Bore (+.030"), -15cc Dish, Set/8, UEM-IC-889-KTD-030-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 455
-15cc Dish
4.180" Bore (+.030")
4.210" Stroke
1.490" Compression Height
.980" Pins Included
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 455
-15cc Dish
4.180" Bore (+.030")
4.210" Stroke
1.490" Compression Height
.980" Pins Included
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Item #: UEM-IC-889-KTD-030-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $920.53
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 455, 4.210" Str., 4.180" Bore (+.030"), -5.5cc Flat Top, Set/8, UEM-IC-888-KTD-030-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 455
-5.5cc Flat Top
4.180" Bore (+.030")
4.210" Stroke
1.490" Compression Height
.980" Pins Included
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 455
-5.5cc Flat Top
4.180" Bore (+.030")
4.210" Stroke
1.490" Compression Height
.980" Pins Included
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included More Details »
Item #: UEM-IC-888-KTD-030-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $802.38
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 455, 4.210" Str., 4.181" Bore (+.030"), -10.8cc Flat Top, Set/8, UEM-IC-9960-KTD-030-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 455
-10.8cc Flat Top
4.181" Bore (+.030")
4.210" Stroke
1.490" Compression Height
Matched Ring Set Included
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 455
-10.8cc Flat Top
4.181" Bore (+.030")
4.210" Stroke
1.490" Compression Height
Matched Ring Set Included
Item #: UEM-IC-9960-KTD-030-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $815.01
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 461-468 Stroker (6.635" Rod), 4.250" Str., 4.125" Bore (Std), -30cc Dish, Set/8, UEM-IC-981-KTD-STD-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 461-468 Stroker (6.635" Rod)
-30cc Dish
4.125" Bore (Standard)
4.250" Stroke
1.465" Compression Height
.990" Pins Included
1/16, 1/16...
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 461-468 Stroker (6.635" Rod)
-30cc Dish
4.185" Bore (+.060")
4.250" Stroke
1.465" Compression Height
.990" Pins Included
1/16, 1/16,...More Details »
Item #: UEM-IC-981-KTD-060-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $1,009.18
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 461-468 Stroker, 4.250" Str., 4.155" Bore (+.030"), -10.6cc Dish, Set/8, UEM-IC-938-KTD-030-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 461-468 Stroker
-10.6cc Dish
4.155" Bore (+.030")
4.250" Stroke
1.300" Compression Height
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 461-468 Stroker
-10.6cc Dish
4.155" Bore (+.030")
4.250" Stroke
1.300" Compression Height
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Item #: UEM-IC-938-KTD-030-8
Condition: New
Ships in 7-10 Business Days
Price: $932.86
Icon Forged Piston and Ring Kit, Pontiac 461-468 Stroker, 4.250" Str., 4.155" Bore (+.030"), -4.3cc Flat Top, Set/8, UEM-IC-941-KTD-030-8New
Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 461-468 Stroker
-4.3cc Flat Top
4.155" Bore (+.030")
4.250" Stroke
1.300" Compression Height
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
Description: Icon Forged Pistons with Rings — Set of 8
Pontiac 461-468 Stroker
-4.3cc Flat Top
4.155" Bore (+.030")
4.250" Stroke
1.300" Compression Height
1/16, 1/16, 3/16 Ring Set Included
The 428 uses the same nominal bore as a 400, so the overbore sizes line up the way you would expect.
Standard 4.120"
The factory bore. Both the Keith Black and Icon listings for the 428 reference a 4.120" stock bore.
.030" over (4.150"), .040" over (4.160"), .060" over (4.180")
The three common rebuild sizes, stocked in Keith Black hypereutectic and Icon forged sets of eight.
4.155", 4.181" and 4.200"
The sizes the Butler/Ross Quick Ship and DSS forged stroker pistons are listed for, on blocks that have been sonic tested to support them.
2. Stock 4.000" stroke rebuild
This is the path most 428 owners are on, and it is the one place the 428 genuinely differs from a 400.
Keith Black -6cc flat top
Hypereutectic 390 alloy with 16 percent silicon, diamond-machined skirt, spiral lock rings, listed for the 428 at 4.000" stroke in .030", .040" and .060" over. Designed for 14 degree heads, 1967 and later. Butler lists a matching piston and ring set version as well.
Icon -10cc dish
Forged 2618 with a D-shaped dish, a 1.595" compression height on the 4.000" stroke, .980" pin, 1/16", 1/16", 3/16" ring grooves, press-fit or floating. Butler shows it near 10.9:1 with a 71cc chamber, 9.4:1 at 87cc and 8.7:1 at 96cc.
DSS forged at 4.000"
A -7cc flat top and a -14cc dish, both at 1.585" compression height on a 6.625" rod with a 1.2, 1.2, 3.0mm ring pack.
3. Stroking a 428 past 4.000"
4.210" stroke
DSS lists a -18cc dish at 1.480" compression height. Butler/Ross Quick Ship covers this stroke at a 4.181" bore.
4.250" stroke
Compression height drops to 1.285" on the DSS dish, which moves to a 6.800" rod and a .990" pin. Butler/Ross Quick Ship flat tops and milled dish tops are stocked at 4.150", 4.155", 4.160" and 4.181" bores for this stroke at a 1.295" compression height.
4.500" stroke
DSS lists a -24cc dish at 1.160" compression height. At that stroke the dish volume is doing most of the work of keeping compression sane.
Butler milled dishes
The Quick Ship dish forgings arrive at Butler as thick flat tops and get CNC finished in house to the dish volume your chamber calls for, rather than forcing you to pick the nearest off-the-shelf number.
4. Heads, rings and the fitment notes that matter
Head style
Icon lists its 428 pistons for OE or Edelbrock style heads with a centered pin. The Keith Black flat top is cut for 14 degree heads from 1967 on.
Compression target
Butler recommends no more than 9.5:1 on cast iron heads and no more than 10.5:1 on aluminum heads for pump gas. Give the counter your chamber cc and the dish choice follows.
Rod clearance
Some stock rods need to be narrowed and the balance pad removed to clear the inside of the pistons. Butler flags this on both the Icon and DSS listings.
Early blocks and power adders
Ross builds an oil ring support version of the -8cc flat top for early blocks with deep notches and for nitrous or boost applications.
Rings
Order the ring set to the finished bore, not the nominal overbore. Quick Ship flat tops list pins and rings as not included; the milled dish versions include pins only.
The short version: on a 428, decide whether you are keeping the 4.000" stroke or going past it, then let the compression height and dish volume fall out of that. Butler can confirm the combination before anything gets machined.
Not sure what your Pontiac needs?
Email our tech team at tech@butlerperformance.com. Tell us your engine, heads, car, and power goal, and we will put the parts together as one combination that works.